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Old 03-23-2017, 09:59 AM   #1
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02-06-2017, 08:46 AM #1
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Lake Levels
06FEB2017 0800 906.88

Here is the history of the low and high lake levels every year up until 2014.

http://www.swl.usace.army.mil/Portal...k%20%20(3).pdf

Albeit proper to warn of the low lake level right now, in 37 of those 56 years, the lowest level for the year was lower than it is now.

After filling, the lowest lake level in history was yesterday in 1965.

02/05/1965 881.54

Here's another low reading on this date in February that we remember well:

02/06/2000 899.96

The overwhelming majority of the lowest lake levels were in Winter months, December-March.

So, where the lake's at now is fairly natural. It's common for it to be lower this time of year than it is now.

It should be mentioned that in the voluminous discussions we had here during the floods, some chided the Corps for not drawing down the lake prior to the Spring rains, something that seems to have been the case more so in recent years than over the history of the lake. So, conversely, I will praise them for doing so this year.

As was documented every two or three days in the previous lake thread, this drawdown has been gradual, consistent, and predictable, exactly what anyone having to tend a dock would want.

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25oct2016 0900 911.21
23nov2016 1900 910.21
26nov2016 0800 909.92
01dec2016 1400 909.56
07dec2016 0600 908.85
12dec2016 1100 908.05
17dec2016 1800 907.72
23dec2016 1800 907.50
19jan2017 0600 907.37
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Given the danger of having the lake too high before the Spring rains arrive, if the choices for this time of year were 915, 906, or 900, I like 906.

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Old 03-23-2017, 10:01 AM   #2
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25oct2016 0900 911.21
23nov2016 1900 910.21
26nov2016 0800 909.92
01dec2016 1400 909.56
07dec2016 0600 908.85
12dec2016 1100 908.05
17dec2016 1800 907.72
23dec2016 1800 907.50
19jan2017 0600 907.37
06feb2017 0800 906.88
11FEB2017 0300 906.50
16FEB2017 0900 906.46
20FEB2017 0700 906.56
24FEB2017 0600 906.75
01MAR2017 0600 906.77
23MAR2017 1000 907.10
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Old 03-25-2017, 07:39 AM   #3
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Over 2 inches of rain here overnight and this morning so she should be "on the rise". Plenty of run-off this time...it came down hard and long.
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Old 03-25-2017, 07:56 AM   #4
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Over 2 inches of rain here overnight and this morning so she should be "on the rise". Plenty of run-off this time...it came down hard and long.
Almost on schedule . . . The April showers, they bring the flowers, that bloom in May.
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Old 03-25-2017, 11:42 AM   #5
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Storm Total Precipitation
NWS Springfield, MO Radar Precip Est From 09:16 AM CDT Fri Mar 24 2017
to 12:27 PM CDT Sat Mar 25 2017

https://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?...101111&loop=no

Every area in the Springfield NWS radar sweep show some precip in the above timeframe.

All of Taney, Stone, and Douglas County, and most of Barry County, and the three neighboring AR Counties, had 1.5-2 inches. The heaviest was up around LOTO, 2-2.5 inches.

This explains why it's continuing to rise, and will for another day or so. Going up about a foot a day right now.
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Old 03-27-2017, 09:59 AM   #6
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Great Info as always. I have noticed one repeated thing about the lake. It goes up then it goes down.
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Old 03-27-2017, 10:30 AM   #7
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More coming mid-week
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Tuesday Night:
Showers likely after 1am. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 53. East wind around 8 mph. Chance of precipitation is 60%. New precipitation amounts between a tenth and quarter of an inch possible.

Wednesday:
Showers likely, with thunderstorms also possible after 1pm. Cloudy, with a high near 70. Southeast wind 7 to 10 mph. Chance of precipitation is 60%. New rainfall amounts between a quarter and half of an inch possible.

Wednesday Night:
Showers and possibly a thunderstorm before 1am, then showers likely. Low around 53. Chance of precipitation is 90%.

Thursday:
Showers likely, then showers and possibly a thunderstorm after 1pm. High near 67. Chance of precipitation is 80%.

Thursday Night A chance of showers before 1am. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 45.
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Old 03-28-2017, 10:12 AM   #8
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NotJLB, between golf, fishing, and enjoying the sunshine, an interesting study for you to think about would be lake levels, and weather comparisons.
Kinda believe in the majority of those low water times there was also a more severe, colder winter. Requiring more electricity generation thus removing water from the lake. Also, in the worst cases I would think that cold, dry, Winters were experienced.
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We have hit 910 ft, woohoo!!!
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We have hit 910 ft, woohoo!!!
910 is a nice milestone, but all the years back to 2014 , we were at or over 915 on this date. I'm sure we will get there...sometime.
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We have hit 910 ft, woohoo!!!
04-15-2011, 05:12 PM
Table Rock 15 APR 16:00 913.01

04-27-2011, 06:59 AM
27APR2011 0700 935.03

So, I'm good with 910, or a little lower, to have more cushion.
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Old 03-28-2017, 03:05 PM   #12
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Cushion?

Study?

01/05/2008 910.22 04/12/2008 933.25
02/08/2011 906.13 04/27/2011 935.46

In both the year the lake level record was set, and the year the lake level record was broken, as most of us followed along, during the "Winter", the lake level was "low" by the standard of many, the same level or lower than it is right now, and by less than a month from now in both years we were screaming about the horrible flooding, and how could "they" let that happen.
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24mar2017 1600 907.05
25mar2017 1600 908.04
27mar2017 0500 909.02
27mar2017 0600 909.02
27mar2017 0700 909.02
27mar2017 0800 909.05
27mar2017 0900 909.11
30mar2017 1000 910.79
03apr2017 1700 911.59
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Also have water being released and that's a variable too. I have to say that seeing Table Rock almost top the gates was remarkable. What a sight to see all the gates open at the same time. Never say never I guess is the lesson.
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Old 04-06-2017, 07:09 AM   #15
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For those who like to watch the lakes:

Beaver Lake:

http://www.swl-wc.usace.army.mil/pag...htm/beaver.htm

Table Rock Lake:

http://www.swl-wc.usace.army.mil/pag...tm/tabrock.htm

Bull Shoals Lake:

http://www.swl-wc.usace.army.mil/pag...tm/bulsdam.htm

James River at Springfield:

https://waterdata.usgs.gov/usa/nwis/uv?07050700

James River at Galena:

https://waterdata.usgs.gov/nwis/uv?07052500
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