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Old 04-30-2017, 09:39 AM   #76
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30APR2017 0700 928.44
30APR2017 0800 928.79
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Old 04-30-2017, 09:41 AM   #77
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The City of Branson is seeking able bodied volunteers to help with sand bags... filling and stacking.
Volunteers should report to the Branson Community Center on Compton Drive.
Volunteers may report anytime after 10:15.

Chief Martin

UPDATE: Bring shovels! Report to Alderwoman Cris Bohinc at Branson Community Center.

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Old 04-30-2017, 09:41 AM   #78
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Appreciate the pictures and comparisons to other floods helps people to better understand that is occurring now. Also can help someone know whether to drive to a certain place or not or to move out of lower areas. Being an engineering type the calculations always appeal to me and its a frightening thing to have that much water moving downstream. I would imagine Powersite is quite a picture already.

It is an amazing watershed over the entire Ozarks and the lakes and dams have been a Godsend for them over the years. Mother nature will always step it up one notch when we think we have it figured out.

I would imagine that whomever calculated the flows and outflows knew there was a break point. You just cannot allow for every type of event. They have saved countless lives and costs down thru the years so this is just part of the way things are when it goes too far past the norm.
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Old 04-30-2017, 09:58 AM   #79
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ueDCxTorAQ

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Old 04-30-2017, 10:36 AM   #80
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when we think we have it figured out
Let me know when that is
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Old 04-30-2017, 10:46 AM   #81
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Let me know when that is
Maybe like Tuesday?


Managing any lake is a hard job. Where do you keep the levels to satisfy everyone involved.

I have to assume that they have a priority list something like//

1. Generation
2. Flood control
3. Minimum Stream flow downstream
4.Recreation
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Old 04-30-2017, 10:53 AM   #82
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NWS Springfield

.LONG TERM...(Monday through Saturday)
Issued at 129 AM CDT Sun Apr 30 2017

The next shortwave riding through a northwesterly flow aloft will
arrive Tuesday night and Wednesday. This system will interact with
front stalled just to our south to bring another round of rain and
some thunder. Rainfall amounts of one to two inches may occur
Tuesday night and Wednesday.


At this point does it really make any difference? Everything is just going to be full longer.
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Old 04-30-2017, 11:03 AM   #83
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That is an amazing amount of water and rise considering every foot up spreads out over more and more land.

100,000 cfs is 18 acres a foot deep per minute. That is crazy numbers. Thanks for the updates.

Is the James and King dropping or maintaining their flows.

The video from Powersite you could see it increase as it ran. That was a huge WOW for any engineer.
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Old 04-30-2017, 11:40 AM   #84
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James: 83700 cfs (increasing)

Kings: 30000 cfs (decreasing)

As if we didn't need another complication, now it is windy.

A lot of docks are unacessible, and were left with loose cables, to keep them from breaking as the water rises more. So, now they are swinging back and forth, with tremendous pressure on cables.

Dockwise, I have no idea what they do with them on Taneycomo, with all that current, when it gets like this.

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You just cannot allow for every type of event.
If Bottom Power Pool is 880, how does the following make sense leading up to rainy season?

Jan 01 to Apr 30 915
Apr 30 to May 01 915 to 916
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Old 04-30-2017, 01:44 PM   #86
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Dockwise, I have no idea what they do with them on Taneycomo, with all that current, when it gets like this
They are mostly designed for strong current. Heavier, and more numerous cables. Plus most of the docks are not in shallow water coves where they need to be drawn in and out with rise and fall. A lot of them are using steel framed "swing arms", for the lack of a better name. Connected to a heavy concrete anchor post with a large pivot pin. They still have twisted, came apart, and broke loose. Was it 2008, or 2011 that Bas Pro's dock broke loose, and was finally stopped way down lake? I think the same year Fall Creek Marina lost their dock. Broke up, and drifted away. Some of it was behind Monkey Island for some time.
Guess we're gonna find out. Just heard they pulled the stopper out. 50,000 cfs heading for the Landing.
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Guess we're gonna find out. Just heard they pulled the stopper out. 50,000 cfs heading for the Landing.
My latest scoop (2 hours old) is that they are open 49,000 and that the predicted crest is 933-933.5 occurring about noon Monday.
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Old 04-30-2017, 02:24 PM   #88
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936 is the magic number. From our 2008, 2011, and 2015 episodes, we learned that at that level the catwalk to open the gates is under water. So, it's that catwalk that is the bugaboo
Thought that was taken care of. I remember reading that the CoE was seeking bids for work to correct the prpblem.
No more ploitics allowed on 1b, so I guess we can't say why it wasn't if it wasn't
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My latest scoop (2 hours old) is that they are open 49,000 and that the predicted crest is 933-933.5 occurring about noon Monday.
***URGENT MESSAGE FROM BRANSON EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT***
This is an emergency message from the City of Branson Emergency Management. The Corps of Engineers will be increasing flows from the gates of Table Rock Dam from 49 thousand to 65 thousand cubic feet per second at 6 pm. Please take appropriate actions to secure personal property and evacuate areas prone to flooding when flood gates open. Remember, utility services in these areas may be turned off if affected by flood waters. Early evacuation prior to dark is imperative.
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65000 going out and 83300 coming in just from the James.

Little bits of rain in the area now. 2 inches expected Tuesday night.
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