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Old 10-15-2006, 05:42 AM   #1
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Somehow, in my heart of hearts, I just don't believe this issue is over yet.
Well, here we go folks round two. In a story appearing in the weekend edition of the Branson Daily News, an article entitled, “Developer to ask board for reconsideration of high-rise,” by Cliff Sain, indicates that, because of the possibility the Branson Board of Aldermen didn’t follow their own ordinance as relates to the approval of reducing the size of the building from 25 stories to 12.

In his most recent column on the Branson skyscraper, entitled, “Mea culpa, couldn’t a 25 story skyscraper symbolize the experience and expectation that is ‘Branson?,” published on October 15, 2006, the Ole Seagull asked, “As to the first impression on visitors, is it not just possible that, while serving as the ‘25 story cement and glass symbol to the New Branson,’ the building could also generate excitement and symbolize the constantly evolving entertainment experience and expectation that has come to be known as ‘Branson?’”

Although this topic originally started in an other thread entitled "Branson's skyscraper has a little taken off the top" this new thread is started to cover the next chapter of what is sure to be a continuting drama.
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Old 10-15-2006, 06:39 AM   #2
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Exactly what view or Ozark beauty will the project be blocking that the current development on the property is not currently blocking? From what an Ole Seagull has seen, especially while driving in from the north, not much.

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I'm never quite sure in the beginning how to take this opinion, tongue in cheek?

And, this subliminal message, "and what are the odds that ''really makes me sit back and ponder the wit and/or serious knowledge of The OleSeagull.

Are you willing to give up some secret here? Or are you just ''thinkin' again''. ?

Of course, it's only 7:40 in the AM and I've not had enough coffee, to make things perfectly clear.



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Adding this promise or this threat in the Sain Article:
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Huffman said that if the board of adjustment does not send the item back to the aldermen, or if the aldermen decide to keep the 12-story limit, Huffman and his partner, Evergreen Investments, of Lebanon, would have to make other plans.

“Then we would discontinue the project and move it somewhere outside the city limits,” Huffman said.
Is this a strong arm tactic, or just the plain truth, and not a threat at all?
Interesting.
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Old 10-15-2006, 02:50 PM   #3
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The Branson paper tells that the group is throwing in another option. Building the tall building outside the Branson city limits. I suggested before, and it could happen, that there may be a new town springing up in the Ozarks. One that ignores the City of Branson and the antics of the city manager. Could it be that Branson grows no more and a "new" alternative ends up positioning itself to be the "Branson" of the future? Of course, they couldn't include the name "Branson" in it's name since the City of Branson and the "name police" would come after them if they wouldn't annex into the City. While thinking about the possibilities, I'm wondering when Branson intends to annex Branson West?
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Old 10-17-2006, 08:45 AM   #4
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From all I have read , and I do find much of it at least interesting. It should be apparent to all , the city counsel as included, that before they grow even a little bit more, they need to address their traffic flow problem. Its very obvious they already have too much, in too little of an area, for the roads they have in existence. There seem to be too many money grabbers , just grabbing and running.
We own a home on the island of Cozumel , and I find from my reading here , a lot of similarities between the two places. For the size of the island we grew too big too fast with NO thought to planned development. A FEW made a LOT of money and seem to have now . . . . cut and run . Those of us who own homes and businesses are left behind holding a mess. Maybe I and I only say maybe, because I am, as I said so very new , but maybe they need to look to the success stories (are there any ?) and copy them . But alas it would appear that pressure from special interest and their own lack of acknowledging the fact that they have some problems is now or will at some time kill the goose . IMHO , it would appear from where I am sitting , that rather than admit some failings , some bad choices and a need for changing some attitude and direction. They would rather Do It Their Way and FAIL!
Folks we have seen that attitude a lot lately and the ones at the top grab the money and are gone with no conscience at all about the wrong they did or who they hurt.
Though I am an outsider among you, I can assure that Branson is well known for its Entertainment and Traffic congestion. Its Said . Come on down , but you wont see half of what you want to see or do half of what you want to do, because of the traffic. That is not much incentive for tourist On Vacation!BTST. There are no doubt the die hard Bransohalics but they will in the end not be enough to support the area again BTST. As On Cozumel , Home values with drop off tourist numbers will decline or TOURS. . . . will take over . " Come with us , do this and this and this and leave .That may at the onset sound good but believe me in the end Branson will truly be an all new Branson and like Cozumel many wont be happy.

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Old 10-19-2006, 07:58 PM   #5
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Though I am an outsider among you, I can assure that Branson is well known for its Entertainment and Traffic congestion.
I think saying a 25 story new hotel is an eyesore is CRAZY! As a tourist and I live in a mountain region too. . . we came to Branson to be entertained, to vacation, to enjoy shows, shop, go to theme parks, etc. If I wanted to see mountains, we got plenty of them right around me and I wouldn't have had to driven 940+miles one way. I couldn't believe when I heard that downtown businesses in Branson fought Branson Landing? It's beautiful and packed with people. I would venture to guess that businesses who complained are now having second thoughts as many of the tourists walk from the Landing up the hill to the shops and they now see a benefit of having Branson Landing right at their doorstep. To me the 25 story hotel will be a great addition to Branson. . I would be more concerned about the Red Roof Outlet Mall with mostly vacant stores than a new 25 story hotel. I would be more concerned about developing infrastructure, traffic congestion. . things that are true problems with the growth Branson is seeing. The fact that developers are investing huge amounts of money into the Branson area is amazing and local officials should be working hand-in-hand with them instead of putting up road-blocks or obstacles for them to overcome. What's the fuss about those outside Branson not being able to use the name Branson either? I've never heard of any such thing. In Florida people say Orlando from Disney World and beyond and yet none of that is in the city of Orlando. So what? Everyone should be proud to say that their from the BRANSON AREA. Come on everyone. . work together for a great future! Some won't like it, but some won't like any change no matter what the change is. The only thing constant is change and everything will change. Work with developers who want to invest to make the change in Branson the best outcome for all possible.
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Old 10-19-2006, 08:16 PM   #6
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Wink I agree with what has been said here.

A 25-story structure represents a strong commitment to the future of Branson. And it will provide tens of thousands of high-paid labor hours in the building and staffing. Who in their right mind could be against it?

And further, I agree with the comments on transportation being a bigger issue and one that Branson should attend to before they have alienated every person with a drivers license.

My idea is to build a first class casino as part of the landing and then run a monorail or light-rail from the casino to the base of the new "mountainscaper". Get the visitors out of their vehicles once they have checked in. Leave the driving to us! School buses could shuttle people from downtown and/or from the base of the mountainscaper to SilverDollar City and to other remote theatres.

Like my sister Paige has told me in the past. . . I'm a big thinker!
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Old 10-20-2006, 04:42 AM   #7
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A 25-story structure represents a strong commitment to the future of Branson. And it will provide tens of thousands of high-paid labor hours in the building and staffing. Who in their right mind could be against it? And further, I agree with the comments on transportation being a bigger issue and one that Branson should attend to before they have alienated every person with a drivers license. My idea is to build a first class casino as part of the landing and then run a monorail or light-rail from the casino to the base of the new "mountainscaper". Like my sister Paige has told me in the past. . . I'm a big thinker!
The 25 story structure will not turn Branson into Manhattan or Chicago and everyone will still have their mountains to enjoy. Traffic. . yes. . Branson needs to address the traffic which keeps increasing as more development is occuring. Casino?. . once again. . .this won't turn Branson into a Las Vegas but I believe it would be a draw for tourism and conventions. Projects spending hundreds of millions of dollars create many well paying jobs and guarantee that Branson will thrive well into the future.
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Old 10-20-2006, 06:00 AM   #8
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I agree in part with what you are saying about the new growth, but I am not for the casinos, It will and does change the value system that Branson was built on....Let the casinos have their own areas, I am just not for it in Branson because it would take the town in a direction that it can't come back from..I am not against casinos, I go to the ones in tunica mississippi and in vegas...But the reason I like branson is because it is for familys and casinos would change that.....I think the sky scraper would be a good addition to branson, it just needs to be done with consideration to the rest of the landscape...And they really need to address the traffic...I live in a fast growing city that is out growing it's streets and services.....So i feel for the citizens of Branson..
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Old 10-20-2006, 07:34 PM   #9
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Traffic issue has NOTHING to do with this project. This project's location would have no impact on the current traffic problems.
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Traffic issue has NOTHING to do with this project. This project's location would have no impact on the current traffic problems.


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Blitzburg; Dont pee your pants. You are right, it may congest the right turn lane at the Shepard of the Hills Rd exit for about 50 feet before they would turn into the tower's driveway.
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Old 10-21-2006, 08:15 AM   #12
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IMHO Tideturner has part of it

Tideturner : Your right on the mark with your statement about.
Get them out of their cars!!!!!!!!!! Get them on Trollies and or whatever else suits the area and let them / us, shop and spend, see everything and spend,eat and spend and spend some more. BTW !The idea is for me to enjoy coming and to SPEND MY MONEY$$$$ Look at the San Antonio River Walk, The Malecon in Playa Del Carmen,or even on a very small scale Galena Il. and literally hundreds of other places. Then take the best, the most suitable ideas from them all and Plan Your Developement. Dont let developers plan your development, one selfserving unit at a time. aka You want to do this ? Its done over there,and this is done over here, and that oh that , we don't allow that, at all .
A 25 story building will give visitors a point of reference. Guys we are here we need to be Over There! Casino's NO . Look at what has happened everywhere else that is not a positive idea and its been done to death. IF you want Casino's make it different and that will be hard. Casino's also attract a LOT that the locals dont want to live with.
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Old 10-21-2006, 08:49 AM   #13
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Roflol...from me too.

Sans TheOleSeagull's, BransonGudTimr's, and Blitzburg's profound statements, I'm sure glad the rest of you aren't planning Branson's future.

About 10 years ago the ''big ideas'' turned out some amazing eyesores...

I wonder when there will be a planning group that knows how to fit the puzzle pieces together and make it look nice.

Its going to get like, ummmmmmmmmm.......gotta think of something apropo, oh I know a big bird with diarreah,.......as it flies over the real estate, it plops crap here, and there, expecting it to run together?

Ain't gonna happen if you all are the planners....hehehe.
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Old 10-21-2006, 11:36 AM   #14
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Blitzburg; Dont pee your pants. You are right, it may congest the right turn lane at the Shepard of the Hills Rd exit for about 50 feet before they would turn into the tower's driveway.


And so when they tire of coloring with crayons in their rooms at "The Tower" what do you suppose they will want to do then? Any chance they will want to come on into town and help ease the congestion?
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Old 10-27-2006, 07:32 PM   #15
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Okay, so...having to drive past downtown area to go to/from office every day...Adding that much more traffic is downright unthinkable to me, to be honest.

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