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Old 04-29-2017, 08:54 AM   #31
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James at Springfield is 4 feet over floodstage and will be over floodstage in Galena shortly.
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Old 04-29-2017, 09:25 AM   #32
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Isn't 920 the "magic number" to increase the release at Table Rock above the 10,900 cfs?
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Old 04-29-2017, 10:16 AM   #33
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Flow at Galena now 19,400 cfs . . . just hit floodstage.

Big area of 6"-8" total from Joplin to Tulsa.
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Old 04-29-2017, 11:45 AM   #34
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Weather service is saying the the front developing and moving through the area Joplin to Anderson right now could add 2-3 inches of rain to that area. They're saying this rain will be split between watersheds.

Corps says with the rain on the ground, TR's release is handling what's coming in to Table Rock.

The tone was optimistic that the dams can handle what's coming in unless the front stalls over the watershed and dumps 10 inches of rain on the area which they do not think will happen. It's moving slow but it is moving and trending north a bit.
Just a more optimistic view.
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Old 04-29-2017, 01:02 PM   #35
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"TR's release is handling what's coming in to Table Rock."

Their pants are on fire . . .

Then why's TRL rising a foot every 9 hours?

29APR2017 1300 920.78

Incoming
James: 23,600 cfs
Kings: 5640 cfs
Everywhere else: probably that again (just from our cove )

Discharge
10,000 cfs

dang facts . . . trips you up every time
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Beaver's 2 feet from flood stage right now, so that have to be released soon.
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Did I mention we're screwed?

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Old 04-29-2017, 01:36 PM   #36
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The tone was optimistic that the dams can handle what's coming
Where did they say without rising?
Their calculations are on current rain forcasts. I am sure they plan on Table Rock holding as much as possible before any drastic release into Taneycomo. I do agree they could be releasing more now. Maybe 20K cfs without any significant flooding on Taneycomo. That's why I asked about the 920 level. I thought that is where they would open more gates,
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Old 04-29-2017, 02:13 PM   #37
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7" in our rain gauge today, and still coming down.

James River is now at 24900 cfs.

TRL discharge is still 10000 cfs.

I understand . . . they think TRL can hold it, not that they think that the rise won't be a problem. "We can handle it" translates into "we've got a ways to go yet before we have to flood everything on Taneycomo."

In the meantime, Taneycomo people are being/have been evacuated.

TRL: 29APR2017 1600 921.95

Going up a foot every two hours!!!!!

Beaver Lake is really living on the edge. On the edge of going over. 1 1/2 foot from floodstage.

More rain predicted for next week.

we're screwed

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Old 04-29-2017, 03:58 PM   #38
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TRL: 29APR2017 1600 921.95

[B][COLOR="Red"]Going up a foot every two hours!!!!!

we're screwed
I remember 2011 flood was rising at 3"/hour...well, that ain't nothing compared to this.

10-4 on the screwed.

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Old 04-29-2017, 05:38 PM   #39
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I just read online that Table Rock is releasing 60,000 cfs? Is that correct? that is more than 2011 and will be a record. Can some of you down there go get pictures of the landing etc. Its my only way to really gauge what its like.

I am amazed that this happens again and again after 50 years of no events. Huge rains here in the dallas area headed your way. Unbelievable. Prayers to those involved.
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Old 04-29-2017, 05:44 PM   #40
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My aunts friends from Arkansas who have lived there all their lives said this is the worst they have ever seen. I guess just too much rain to really prepare for in those hills. Tornado hit I20 east of Dallas. Cars all over the ditches many pp. still trapped. up to 40 cars. Stilll moving NE from Canton.
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Old 04-29-2017, 06:24 PM   #41
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City of Branson Government
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Lake Taneycomo has RISEN 3 FEET IN ONE HOUR, from 708 to 711. (e.g. the boardwalk is 714). Please follow instructions of emergency workers and rescue personnel to evacuate!
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I just read online that Table Rock is releasing 60,000 cfs? Is that correct? that is more than 2011 and will be a record. Can some of you down there go get pictures of the landing etc. Its my only way to really gauge what its like.

I am amazed that this happens again and again after 50 years of no events. Huge rains here in the dallas area headed your way. Unbelievable. Prayers to those involved.
29APR2017 1900 923.22 715.58 10086 (Release cfs)
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There’s a potential of 8 to 9 inches of rainfall in the Beaver (Lake) watershed — not counting what will fall over Table Rock,” said U.S. Army Corps of Engineers Little Rock District Spokeswoman Laurie Driver.

The Corps is “walking a fine line” between telling people that the “sky is falling” and there’s a potential “for the sky to fall,” she said.

“There’s a lot of different factors that make it hard for us to say, ‘This is definitely going to happen,’” Driver said. “What we’re telling people is, ‘If you got wet during 2008, 2011 and 2015, you want to be watching this situation.’

“We may have larger releases than in 2015.”
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I was there for the past three floods and am so sorry for those involved. All I can offer is prayers at this time and please find safe havens and save your lives most importantly.
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Old 04-29-2017, 08:08 PM   #45
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From Fayetteville to Branson the total rainfall is 6"-8" now. Everywhere else is 3"-6". Everywhere.

The Kings is 29,200 cfs and the James is 38,700 cfs now, with only 10,000 cfs going out of TRL. Beaver is less than a foot from flood stage now and release hasn't started yet. It will have to, and that will add to TRL.

Add to that 800 miles of shoreline, hills all dumping water into TRL. We've been here 20 years and the dry creeks and ditches have never been like they are right now . . . and constant. I've given up on the docks. They will be unusable for awhile. Hopefully they will stay safe, not break cables and stuff like that.

It took 3 hours for TRL to go up another foot this time. Less than 8 feet from flood stage. So, doing the math, without increasing the release, that will occur tomorrow.

Those below TRL dam need to leave now.

we're screwed

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