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Old 12-06-2019, 08:26 PM   #1
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Any new theater shuffles for 2020?

Anyone know whats going to happen at Andy Williams now that is for sale? Rick Thomas and the rest of the shows?
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Old 12-07-2019, 08:43 AM   #2
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Only thing I've heard for sure is that SIX is moving to Dick Clark's American Bandstand Theatre. Haven't heard for sure what the schedules for both SIX and Legends in Concert will look like.

No clue at this point for sure what will happen to shows at Andy Williams Performing Arts Center. The only real full-time show that's been there this season was Rick Thomas. The others have all been a series of limited runs.
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Old 12-07-2019, 10:20 AM   #3
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Daniel O'Donnell will be at the Welk in November 2020.

http://danielodonnell.org/2019/11/19...0-on-sale-now/
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Old 12-07-2019, 12:19 PM   #4
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Little update on SIX

The SIX Show schedule next year will be pretty much like it has been at the Hughes Theater. Alternating afternoons and evenings. Not sure about Legends.

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Old 12-07-2019, 05:36 PM   #5
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Quoted: “Not sure about Legends”. And that has me worried....Legends is a NIGHTLY show, every night. No “rotating”....so.....????
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Old 12-09-2019, 12:58 PM   #6
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Them SIX boys have worked in nearly every venue in town..?? For a show that’s suppose to be sold out , every night, they sure move around a lot.
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Old 12-09-2019, 02:15 PM   #7
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There are other issues beyond ticket sales that cause a show to move around.... for example, theaters might raise rent, a show might not get the schedule they want in their current theater... frankly, sometimes it’s just not a good fit personalitywise. And sometimes a show just finds a better deal.
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Old 12-09-2019, 03:35 PM   #8
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There are other issues beyond ticket sales that cause a show to move around.... for example, theaters might raise rent, a show might not get the schedule they want in their current theater... frankly, sometimes it’s just not a good fit personalitywise. And sometimes a show just finds a better deal.
I think shows which continually bounce around to different theaters year after year do great damage to their business. Right now, for anyone wanting to start a show in Branson, which would be a really bad idea, it is shocking how inexpensively you can rent a venue. Every year I have folks offering practically free rent, but usually you get what you pay for so I decline. Many people are upside down on their rent/mortgage so they are almost giving away timeslots with the hope that customers will come in and buy some popcorn and soda.

Things are going to get worse. Smart folks like the Haygoods and Presleys will continue to do well because they understand the business climate in the market and work hard to earn repeat customers. Others refuse to acknowledge the Branson of old will never return and not learning from history is a recipe for failure. Don’t know anything about Six, wish them well.
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Old 12-09-2019, 05:11 PM   #9
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I remember awhile back The Rankin Brothers Show seemed to move every year. Personally, I loved their show and attended often. Just didn't know where the would be from season to season. Ultimately, it brcame a lack of financial-backing that caused the show's demise in town. Most folks don't understand that it takes an incredible amount of money just to keep a show afloat, no matter who's show it is. Obviously, name recognition helps ... but ... so does stability in a venue.
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Old 12-09-2019, 06:35 PM   #10
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Having a show in Branson (or anyplace, for that matter) is very much akin to professional automobile racing. An average, top of the field NASCAR car and team will cost between 20-25 Million dollars PER YEAR to field that car...a top of the field NHRA Top Fuel dragster or funny car/team will cost between 4-7 Million dollars per year. No way does the top winning team for the year ever win enough money in races to pay for the car, parts, and team members. It takes DEEP pockets to start with, then very expensive corporate sponsors ponying up the cash every race, to insure that car and team can go to the track and attempt to win the race. That is what all those decals are on the side of the cars...and why TV viewership and the amount of time a camera stays focused on a car are so very critical to a team...the sponsors hope that when people see their name on their television, it will translate into SALES of their product. Hence, a good ROI for them.

Although a Branson show is tougher in a way, because they have no visible "corporate sponsors" for people to see and buy products from...they do have investors who front their money for expenses...and hopefully they will have large audiences who buy lots of $40-$50 seat tickets, plus lots of soda, popcorn and snacks at the concession stand. The mark up on concession food and drinks is crazy high...but it has to be, to insure profits to help float the shows. Plus is some areas of the country, a successful show can enjoy some local and/or state perks such as deferred or lowered taxes, etc...not sure at all about the Branson political scene concerning that.
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having a show in branson (or anyplace, for that matter) is very much akin to professional automobile racing. An average, top of the field nascar car and team will cost between 20-25 million dollars per year to field that car...a top of the field nhra top fuel dragster or funny car/team will cost between 4-7 million dollars per year. No way does the top winning team for the year ever win enough money in races to pay for the car, parts, and team members. It takes deep pockets to start with, then very expensive corporate sponsors ponying up the cash every race, to insure that car and team can go to the track and attempt to win the race. That is what all those decals are on the side of the cars...and why tv viewership and the amount of time a camera stays focused on a car are so very critical to a team...the sponsors hope that when people see their name on their television, it will translate into sales of their product. Hence, a good roi for them.

Although a branson show is tougher in a way, because they have no visible "corporate sponsors" for people to see and buy products from...they do have investors who front their money for expenses...and hopefully they will have large audiences who buy lots of $40-$50 seat tickets, plus lots of soda, popcorn and snacks at the concession stand. The mark up on concession food and drinks is crazy high...but it has to be, to insure profits to help float the shows. Plus is some areas of the country, a successful show can enjoy some local and/or state perks such as deferred or lowered taxes, etc...not sure at all about the branson political scene concerning that.
^^^^this
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back to the original topic for a second... it's mid December usually the "shuffle" is in full bloom by now is the Daniel O'Donnell and Six news it? I guess it's pretty common knowledge Noah takes over at the Sight and Sound.

there was a news story about the Million Dollar Quartet closing down any news on the Welk Theater?
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Old 12-10-2019, 06:24 PM   #13
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back to the original topic for a second... it's mid December usually the "shuffle" is in full bloom by now is the Daniel O'Donnell and Six news it? I guess it's pretty common knowledge Noah takes over at the Sight and Sound.

there was a news story about the Million Dollar Quartet closing down any news on the Welk Theater?
There was a 5 year contact for Million Dollar Quartet; this ended the 5 years. We kept meaning to go and never did.
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Them SIX boys have worked in nearly every venue in town..?? For a show that’s suppose to be sold out , every night, they sure move around a lot.
For the record, this will be only the third different theatre they’ve been in since coming to town 13 years ago. They were at Hughes Brothers for 5 years, Gilley’ stories 5, then back at Hughes. Now going to Dick Clark. Really not a bad track record at all.
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There are other issues beyond ticket sales that cause a show to move around.... for example, theaters might raise rent, a show might not get the schedule they want in their current theater... frankly, sometimes it’s just not a good fit personalitywise. And sometimes a show just finds a better deal.
Of course, you hit the nail on the head! There is so much that goes on behind the scenes! It can drive up oh nuts!!
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