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Old 01-04-2018, 05:21 PM   #226
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Went back and compared previous years using this site:
http://tablerock.uslakes.info/Level.asp

In 4 out of the last 5 years (not counting the the 2015 flood) it seems like it steadily drops in Nov and Dec, and then kinda' flatlines in January. Is that a result of a contracted/negotiated amount of power generation maybe - I dunno'?

I would have expected Jan to be similar to the others, but it isn't, and then Feb doesn't seem to be consistent one way or the other.
You were participating in the flood thread back then, but here's the late Spring flood year of 2011:

02/08/2011 906.13 04/27/2011 935.46

You may recall that for some reason when it was at that low in February, it was allowed to come back up to 915 when there was no weather event to account for the rise.

Then, when the deluge(s) began, there was not enough cushion. I have referred to cushion, meaning the total available in Beaver, Table Rock and Bull Shoals.

Not that I matter, but I have advocated keeping it around 905 this time of year, and similar in Beaver and Bull Shoals.
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Old 01-04-2018, 09:57 PM   #227
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Went back and compared previous years using this site:
http://tablerock.uslakes.info/Level.asp

In 4 out of the last 5 years (not counting the the 2015 flood) it seems like it steadily drops in Nov and Dec, and then kinda' flatlines in January. Is that a result of a contracted/negotiated amount of power generation maybe - I dunno'?

I would have expected Jan to be similar to the others, but it isn't, and then Feb doesn't seem to be consistent one way or the other.
Much more complicated than just one lake level chart. What was the temperatures like in those Nov.-Dec. periods. Colder weather, more generation, water gets let out. What was the precipitation during those two months. Then was the pattern in the following February periods warmer, colder, wetter, dryer?
Lots of variables in the fine balance between flood control, power production, and recreation.
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Old 01-05-2018, 07:57 AM   #228
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Not that I matter, but I have advocated keeping it around 905 this time of year, and similar in Beaver and Bull Shoals.
I'd be ok with 905. That exposes enough trees that it would keep the go-fast idjits slowed down when they're heading in/out of the coves.

It does create some challenges with being able to get the dock far enough out as we go way past the preferred 90 degree angle for the lake side anchor cables. At that level we're pretty much out of cable on the shore side and have to move those anchors out.

Everyone that jumps, or has family jumping, off the bluffs (Baxter & point 10 party cove in particular) should visit those places while the lake is at 905 and see what lies beneath where they jump when it's at the "normal" level

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Old 01-05-2018, 08:59 AM   #229
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Everyone that jumps, or has family jumping, off the bluffs (Baxter & point 10 party cove in particular) should visit those places while the lake is at 905 and see what lies beneath where they jump when it's at the "normal" level
Yessir, but none of them are around when the Lake is down to that level. I'm amazed there have been no horrible "impaling" accidents at those sites.

Same goes with those towing tubers, skiers, wakeboarders etc. that buzz back into coves and tow their unsuspecting people directly over the tops of all the Pole Timber that has broken off just below the 915 level and is just waiting for someone to fall off.

Anglers who fish this pond year-round know what is under these waters and just cringe when we see the care-free, unknowing water sports participants get dragged into these areas.
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Old 01-31-2018, 08:55 AM   #230
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31jan2018 0600 909.01
Nice & steady. A lot less cranking on the winches this winter
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Old 01-31-2018, 09:10 AM   #231
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Nice & steady. A lot less cranking on the winches this winter
Two winters ago ran off that year's docktender. Last winter ran off that docktender.

Maybe this winter's will wanna do it again next year.

As long as work is not hard, people tend to like it.

I did it for a lot of years, and, yes, it can be hard.
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Old 02-09-2018, 10:59 AM   #232
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09feb2018 1000 908.63

It varies slightly at different times of the year, but, generally speaking, the total 3-lake cushion between operating pool and flood stage is around 55 feet.

I believe the cushion is at 88 feet now.
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Old 02-18-2018, 10:32 PM   #233
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How's that cushion thing?
https://m.facebook.com/meteorologist...pe=3&source=48
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Old 02-24-2018, 02:16 PM   #234
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Wish they would have run enough generation to wash all the mud out of Taneycomo. But they didn't. Less than half a unit all day. Taney is fliwing a bit more than what a half unit would he. Raising also, lots of leaves, anf junk floating as the swollen creeks rush in.
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Old 02-25-2018, 09:35 AM   #235
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Storm total precip. at Mid-Lake was 3.81" from the last round.

Even in our severe drought conditions the dry ground could not absorb that as fast as it came down and turned into the typical Gully-Washer with leaves piled-up in the roadside drainage ditches. At least the salt got washed off the roads and bridges.
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Old 02-27-2018, 07:13 AM   #236
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To review the operation of the three lakes together, there is normally a 55-foot total cushion between the current power pools and the top flood pools of the three lakes.

Just 16 days ago the cushion was 88 feet.

Now it is 59 feet.

That's how fast it can happen.
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Old 02-27-2018, 06:27 PM   #237
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See what you did?

Yeah, jinxed it! Luckily a neighbor was around to keep after ours (his also = community dock) over the weekend. He did say he had to get one foot wet to get to the gangway when it went up overnight a little more than he expected.
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Lotsa release has it turned:
3 to 4 units since Monday. Got a piece of lumber handy NotJLB? It almost appears that the Corps is actually thinking ahead about the possibility of heavy Spring rains, and trying to keep that cushion close. Knock on wood!!!!
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3 to 4 units since Monday. Got a piece of lumber handy NotJLB? It almost appears that the Corps is actually thinking ahead about the possibility of heavy Spring rains, and trying to keep that cushion close. Knock on wood!!!!
I'll believe that when I see 906. But even that's no guarantee:

02/08/2011 906.13
04/27/2011 935.46

28FEB2018 0500 916.44

We're already 10 feet worse!



Here comes another blob of rain!
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Yeah, jinxed it! Luckily a neighbor was around to keep after ours (his also = community dock) over the weekend. He did say he had to get one foot wet to get to the gangway when it went up overnight a little more than he expected.
Our docktender took awhile getting back to me. He said he was sorry . . . he was busy moving docks. He said it was all under control.

For those who are not familiar, when the lake is going up a foot every 7 hours (it never goes down that fast), a dock needs to be moved as many as a half-dozen times a day, depending on how far up the bank it can be drawn each move.

Some docks are such that it is not wise to draw the wheels too far up . . . just enough to get them on land.
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